The welfare-reform proposals sitting before Congress are so contentious, Mr. Buckley begins, "that everyone known to the Producer of Firing Line has put in to give his views on them." Sometimes--when all eight guests speak at once--we may feel that less would have been more. But we get a fascinating range of views on matters like how long recipients ought to be able to stay on welfare, what is the most productive way of changing the current system, and how welfare and illegitimacy interact.

The welfare-reform proposals sitting before Congress are so contentious, Mr. Buckley begins, "that everyone known to the Producer of Firing Line has put in to give his views on them." Sometimes--when all eight guests speak at once--we may feel that less would have been more. But we get a fascinating range of views on matters like how long recipients ought to be able to stay on welfare, what is the most productive way of changing the current system, and how welfare and illegitimacy interact.

Accusations fly, along with contradictory statistics, but beneath the noise we hear the great themes of the debate that Mr. Brimelow called for in the preceding debate.

Accusations fly, along with contradictory statistics, but beneath the noise we hear the great themes of the debate that Mr. Brimelow called for in the preceding debate.

Mr. Pinker's new book had infuriated linguistic conservatives--among whom, count WFB--but in this relaxed conversation, host and guest agree as much as they disagree.

This follow-up discussion is less wild and woolly than some of our recent ones, but sparks still fly--as do provocative ideas.

This follow-up discussion is less wild and woolly than some of our recent ones, but sparks still fly--as do provocative ideas.

To the title question, Mr. Heston would give a qualified No. There are, he says, "far more young conservatives among actors and writers and directors now," and Hollywood does respond, though slowly, to public pressure--so that, as Mr. Buckley puts it, "a depiction of a minister or a priest doesn't have to show him as a bigamist or an adulterer or a sodomist." Still, Hollywood is a left-wing place.

Mr. Koch had recently reflected publicly on the work of a professor who had found that the incidence of crime among young black men who were married and working was no higher than that among young white men. So how do we get young black men to marry and work?